The funny thing in my case is that the TB is similar for the Gen 3 3SGE TB although the manifold created much of the change. I don?t even miss out on the ACIS at this stage. Tomg reported: Didnt they go larger ports to the caldina relative to the initial/2nd gen 3sge?rdyzz said: 1st gens have been recognised to get problematic when athletics cams w